Nudity, Pornography Warning from OpenDNS: Butterfly Marketing

Could your site be incorrectly flagged as a porn site? Yes it could. Read on and I’ll supply you with an easy fix.

There was a post in a forum that access was denied to a video because OpenDNS stated the site contained: Nudity, Pornography. The site?

http://www.butterflymarketing.com/

Newsflash: The site isn’t porn, far from it … it’s Mike Filsaime sitting on a couch discussing his Butterfly Marketing Technique. I know what you’re thinking: Thank GOD it isn’t porn! ;-)

What is OpenDNS? According to their site they provide industry-leading Web content filtering, anti-phishing, DNS infrastructure and navigation services.

Let’s look at why OpenDNS pinned this site as: Nudity, Pornography. We’ll use DomainTools, which is one of my favorite tools, to uncover the possible reasons.

First, let’s look at the screenshot from OpenDNS:

ly Marketing OpenDNS Details

ly Marketing OpenDNS Details

As you can see it was originally tagged as Advertising, which is how it should be tagged, but then it was hit with “Nudity” and “Pornography” categories. And then those categories were approved. I have been stating for years that when you do business online you need to watch “the company you keep” and that includes the domain which share the IP address of your domain.

Let’s check what DomainTools says about the domain:

Domain Tools Info on ButterflyMarketing.com

Domain Tools Info on ButterflyMarketing.com

Look at the area that states “Reverse IP” … do you see all the domains listed? In looking at these domains, we find the problem. One of the ways systems detect “nudity” or “pornographic” sites is the names of the actual domain. For example, if it spiders the domain name “SexKitten.com” it can reasonably assume it is porn without having someone actually going to the site to verify, right?

Right.

But here is the problem. Because the algo it looks for “sex” and tags sites as “adult” it seems the domains or subdomains caused this issue. Check the screen shot below:

Having "Sex" in your Domain Name Unintentionally can be Harmful

Look at result #66 on this IP address, butterflymarketingmanuscriptsexposed.com. Or allow me to write it another way:

butterflymarketingmanuscriptSEXposed.com

See the issue? The word SEX appears “accidentally” in the domain name, thus triggering the filter. Filters can also be triggered if the domain was bought “used” and it was a former porn site.

How do you fix this? It’s easy. Just move butterflymarketing.com (your main domain) to a dedicated IP address. Problem solved. And it will cost you a whopping dollar extra per month in hosting.

Now, sometimes if your business is so big and you have hundreds of domains, or you have a strong following as Filsaime does with a ton of affiliates, or you have a bunch of subdomains … all these issues could cause you harm if a “dirty word” is inadvertently listed in the domain.

Could it be an accident? Sure. Is this problem Filsaime’s fault? No. The content filtering system is at fault. However, you can’t wait for them to fix the problem. You have to take a proactive approach.

Don’t let this happen to your business. Use clean, dedicated IPs for your main domains, and never “stack” your domains with over 200 on a single IP address. Oh, and look at your domains carefully when you register them for any “unsuspecting” words. Just ask the guy who owns the business “Pen Island.” ;-)

Comments

  1. Lance says

    “Just subscribe to one of his mailing lists and you’ll find out rather quickly. Your Inbox will be flooded with email every day with every offer imaginable.”

    Oh how true that is! Took me weeks to stem the flow and eventually choke it off. I love the Stomper dearly but I just don’t get Filsaime being in there with the likes of you Jerry. I just assume there is some skill set he adds although I haven’t seen it yet.

  2. Kevin Puls says

    As a subscriber to both “The Net Effect” journal and the “DVD of the Month”, I found some of this information very useful, especially about having no more than 200 domains on the same IP address.

    As someone who owns 1300 domains, I’ll be sure to check spread mine around. BTW… quite a few of them are for sale- just ask me.

    Best,

    -K

  3. SEO Chuck says

    What does this mean? I subscribed to his list and today I’m receiving lots of spam that didn’t happen before. Does he sell email addresses? If so, I’ll never do business with him for anything.

  4. yujine says

    I got “Do not enter” mark pasted to above URL. It happened when I downloaded and pasted a video from YouTube. The video is a comment to Japan Google’s unfavorable (am I saying right?) action to promote Google Analytics to Japanese audiences.

    After a few day of my post, I got “Do not Enter” mark start to appear whenever I use Chrome as the browser.

    I have filled form accessing to Google though, it still persists. Could this be same reason as your post?

  5. SEORundown says

    That is Hilarious… I now have a third person to put on my soon to be site “let-go-of-my-ears-i-know-what-im-doing.com”

    This is great content!!! Keep up the good work!

  6. Lu says

    Wow – why would you put so many on one IP being an “expert”?
    Or, did a “reliable” outsourcing crew do that including the domain name registration?

    And, yes, once I signed up ‘over there’, too.
    Holy crappers – our email box almost caved in!

    For some reason, my mind tends to misspell that name ever since ;).

  7. Larry Dickey says

    Great content, that’s funny. I wonder is something like this could and is being used as a marketing technique.
    Your right, Stop the email flood.
    Thank’s Larry

  8. Dave P says

    Thanks for the content, Jerry. Very enlightening.

    I know this may not seem nice, but I did subscribe (and eventually, thankfully ended) a subscription to the “Best D…N Internet Marketing Newsletter.” What kept echoing in my mind was “once a used car salesman, always a…”

    - Dave

  9. Kathy says

    I too fell into one of Mike’s list somehow. I subscribed (by mistake) to his so-called Best Internet Marketing Newsletter. As a retired editor of a country newspaper, I wouldn’t let something like that magazine go to press. It was poorly written, full of mistakes and the content was cr*p. Especially compared to the Net Effect, which everyone is trying to copy. Anyone else noticed how many so called ‘best physical magazines’ suddenly hit the lists after the Net Effect started? I love Dave’s comment about used car salesmen! Filsaimes so called ‘free’ new Butterfly Manuscript? Wouldn’t waste my international postage on it. I’d be back on his list again!

    Kathy

  10. Jeff Baas says

    Yeah, I almost did a similar mistake one time. Luckily, I noticed it before I bought the domain and was able to buy one that didn’t have that unfortunate problem.

    Since then, I always advice people to double-check any potential domain names that use the plural form of any word. I’ve also found that the word “and” in a domain name can also be problematic. Nothing anywhere near as embarrassing as what Mike “Fill-my-inbox” experienced, but an awkwardly placed “and” can be pretty confusing to a potential customer.

  11. says

    I am on his list and got one copy of his printed newsletter. The information in the newsletter was useful at that time I got it, so no complain. Got only a test copy, because the printed newsletter had to high price tag for me.
    I don’t know how many lists he is keeping. The one list I am on I don’t get many in my in-box. There are other IM Marketers much worser.
    But as always you have a choice of opt-out.

    Jerry I like this post. It’s funny to find out that long standing marketers can fall for some unexpected traps. Interesting to know that you would own so many domains and point them all to one server.

    Thanks for pointing it out and I agree with Matthew
    “Yep – that’s pretty funny. I could see a lot folks doing this. Great info to know and understand.”

  12. Make More Money Online says

    I noticed that too. I have been in and out of a number of his lists, and I got more spam emails from other “marketers” everytime I subscribed to his list.

  13. Anton says

    Interesting info thanks Jerry, and I thoroughly agree with everyone above about Mike’s marketing methods – I accepted one of his “free” offers once (that had a back end subscription attached) and he tried to upsell, downsell, cross-sell everything under the sun, and then I got a million emails, and nobody would reply to my requests to cancel the subscription, and there was *no* contact information anywhere on the subscription site. Luckily I changed my CC at that time, and he couldn’t charge me any more.

    I will *never* buy anything from him again. I don’t care what it is, I wouldn’t touch it with a 100 foot barge pole!

  14. Bert says

    there’s a whole raft of these guys out there… we all know who they are… they’re landing pages all look the same… you can tell, just trust your ‘gut instinct’ when you land on their page…

    another good wheez ‘they’ do is the old ‘forced continuity hidden in a bonus’ trick… yep, that’s right… before you know it you’re paying a monthly fee for something you didn’t sign up for BUT because you didn’t look at the bonus properly you didn’t see the hidden continuity OPT OUT deep in the bonus… so, now you’re paying for something and you didn’t even know it

  15. stew kelly says

    Thanks Jerry for this very instructional post. I can’t imagine anybody being so sloppy making hundreds of subdomains…but the consequences are relevant to those of use who create 20-50 subdomains.

    I got to thank everybody for the heads up on the spam-daddy. It seems if you fill out an opt-in, Internet marketers think you are now their personal property and can pimp you out to just about anybody.

    For me, that is a flawed strategy bound to backfire and create ill-will towards anything else you do.

  16. says

    Guess he’s not such a smart “internet guru” after all. LOL… I was never a fan of Mike Filsaime or his marketing ethics. I would never buy one of his products especially seeing how he uses “forced continuity” and tries to sell everything under the sun. The only thing he gives a damn about is money. And once he has it — it’s his, no matter what guarantee he offers. There is no “free” with him. One way or another you pay.

  17. Bert says

    anton, if he scammed you (like he appears to have scammed loads of others) simply do a charge-back on your credit card… they hate it!… you get your money back and they have to prove to Visa etc that the sale is legitimate… and Visa et al will fine them, their email list company will have problems with them, basically it’s a sh*t load of problems for them.. chargebacks to those who scam you, or who don’t honour their gaurantee, is the way to ‘get back’

  18. Anton says

    Thanks for the advice Bert. This was about a year ago, and I have now found out about chargebacks, and used them on a couple of occasions where people had charged me incorrectly and wouldn’t rectify the situation.

    But I also own a software company, and we have had a few chargebacks and the banks seem to just force the chargeback, and when you go and ask for the reason, they just say that the customer was incorrectly charged or something like that. Now we have a one year money back guarantee (which we honor!), and reply to all customer queries within one working day. I think we have had about 5 chargebacks, and for two of them I was able to contact the person, and one guy said “oh, my wife must have bought it, and I didn’t know what the charge was for” so when he asked the bank about the charge, they immediately did a chargeback. When he found out what it was for (and presumably actually talked to his wife!) he said he would cancel the chargeback, but it was never credited to us again. He was also completely unaware of the impact of doing a chargeback on a business. The other guy I contacted was much the same.

    So please, only use chargebacks where warranted, only if you can’t get satisfaction from the company by contacting them directly. And if you are telling people about chargebacks, please mention the impact it has on the business so they won’t use it irresponsibly – every bit of education helps…

    We do everything we can to do right by our customers, but even so we presumably have 5 black marks by our name somewhere in the banking world’s databases.

  19. Michael says

    That is funny!! As smart as he is you’d think he or someone that works for him would have figured that out. I too have unsubscribed from his lists for the very same reason. Inundated with emails.
    Thanks for the great info Jerry.

  20. says

    Yeah, Mike works his lists pretty good – and it can take a while to get off them all. But you know what to expect when you sign up I’d imagine.

  21. says

    As his latest offer is another in the long line of:

    “Get this free – except for postage (so I can get your credit card details) and with luck a few thousand of you will sign up and not realize I’m going to auto-bill you every month until you cancel the newsletter subscription – by the time you do realise most of you will have forgotten how I said you could do that. This is why I haven’t given you a PayPal option”.

    Yep it’s Newbie rip-off time again by a guru with a massive list and no new product to pitch!

    I unsubscribe from any list that promotes that crap.

  22. Clint Lenard says

    We all know this didn’t happen to Mike Fullslime by accident. He’s constantly taking advantage of newbies, and trying to shovel hope down desperate people’s throats…

    What’s even more disgusting is how he’s becoming (along with many other IM douchebag’s) even more of a smut peddler during THESE HARD TIMES. People are losing jobs and running around for help, and this guy is taking advantage of these poor people.

    I wonder how many single mothers, fathers and even Widows and Widowers he’s taken advantage of in his days.

    To see someone list his site as Nudity, Pornography isn’t enough justice in my mind! ;-)

    Great post, Jerry!

  23. says

    Actually I don’t find it amusing at all. Nor do I think Filsame is to blame with his choice of domain names. The problem is with the places who presume to tell others what a domain or site is about based on their software. These types of places are a great example of scare tactics and never listening even when it’s explained to them.

    Chide Mike all you want, however go after these kinds of places that don’t even bother to go check a site. Adult filtering is cool but not when it’s done irresponsibly.

    The one thing I know for a fact is you can not reliably tell what’s adult and what isn’t by the domain name. Using their criteria that would make my site mentalpowerandthemind.com a site about dog food. ROTF ALPO is in there. It could be misconstured as a site about the South African RAND, it could be a site about THEM.

    Sorry Jerry but I think your time would be better spent going after places like this one that are so irresponsible. It may even be actionable in court because carelessly naming a non adult site as a porn site is damaging and will cost Mike money.

    Lol, I don’t know Mike but I do know how to block his emails. Simply ban the whole works in mailwasher. ;)

  24. says

    Good catch, Jerry. :)

    By the way, in regards to some of the comments above, I’m not too big on his constant promoting of products and services, which is why I unsubscribed from his mailing list, but you can’t knock his continuity model.

    The reason I say it is this: When he did the “The 7 Figure Secrets” launch, there was a BIG red box on the order page, before you fill in your information, that explained the fact that you were also receiving a trial to his monthly subscription, and that you would remain a member unless you cancel.

    As far as canceling, also inside the big red box was this message:

    I am happy to know I can easily call to cancel future issues and payments by simply calling +1 (631) 615-4597 at anytime 24 hours a day / 7 days a week or by going to your help desk at TheCustomerHelpDesk.com

    Going further, the man even has THIS site – http://cancelmetoday.com/ So you can’t say that it’s hard to cancel, either.

    So if you don’t like his marketing techniques, or his frequent email blasts, hey, I understand. Like I said earlier, I unsubscribed quite a while back because of the constant promotions.

    But on the other hand, if you think you got “tricked” into a continuity program or that the cancellation process was “hidden” from you, then you need to think again.

    This post may not make me a lot of friends, considering the other things that have been said here, but whatever.

  25. says

    I’ve never really resonated with Mike Filsaime at all, but when he brought out the 7 figure code I thought, ok i’ll give it a try.

    What a mistake that was! I cancelled the forced continuity program within a week of receiving the product, but unkowingly you actually sign up to TWO subscriptions when you sign up for your FREE product!

    Therefore, a few months later I relaised that I was still being charged for what I thought i’d cancelled. Be wary of how many subscriptions you actually sign up for with Mike Filsaime’s free offers.

    I’m off his list for good – never to return.

  26. Clint Lenard says

    Mike is a Pioneer? Really? In what, may I ask?

    As a matter of fact, there’s NO SUCH THING as a “pioneer” in the Business he’s in.

    I remember when someone labeled him the “Viral king” or some BS like that…amazing, seeing that The Bible, Ford Cars, and heck, even YouTube.com makes Mike Fullslime look like a complete joke.

    Their entire trick of “building yourself as an Authority” may work for newbies, but anyone who is IN Internet Marketing knows that not one of these guys is a pioneer. Most get their next ebook idea from Bloggers or Forums.

    BTW, Nice job in trying to push your product while making a fake comment.

  27. says

    First of all – excellent post by Jerry, stimulating thought as always. Not just a one-off, specific tip, but something to assimilate and use for various circumstances in the future. Thank you, as usual!

    Second, I completely agree with Chris…well, kind of. Filsaime (or Fullslime – great nickname above) makes it very obvious how to unsubscribe or cancel, which I imagine keeps his customer service people from losing their minds with what must be a large number of people that want to cancel. So, tough to make that argument or that you were duped into something you didn’t understand.

    However, the number of hoops I had to jump through while trying to cancel a subscription, and then later, cancel Review Crusher because it was a prematurely-released piece of junk was amazing. Even once I cancelled, I got another month billed to me, and had to call again. They apologized and credited me. Then, same thing happened next month and I had to call again and waste my time to get a credit and end it once and for all. Perhaps a ploy to try to milk an extra payment or two out of somebody not paying close attention?

    I won’t even go into the 6 week process of trying to get support on his “Instant Buzz” browser toolbar that didn’t work. The uninstall didn’t work either, and the 6 weeks was spent trying to get them to identify all of the Registry entries necessary to remove it from my system.

    Just about the only Internet Marketer out there that I have unsubscribed from completely and permanently, as well as blacklisted in my email client.

    Sad that slimy people like that are worth millions while people with integrity follow the slow path to business success!

    Scott

  28. says

    @ Affiliate Marketing – I agree with what you said.

    Based on all of the spelling and grammar mistakes in Filsaime’s stuff…I think maybe John Henry is a pseudonym for Mike Filsaime. The misspelling of “Poineer” is a dead giveaway!

    Scott

  29. says

    The main point of the post is being missed here and this is turning into a “bash Filesame” fest, which was not intended.

    MAIN POINT: Don’t place your main site on the same IP amongst dozens or hundreds of other domains – even if they are all owned by you. And make sure the IP address is clean.

    And have some tact, don’t push your product in the comment area. I hate to have to delete posts…

  30. says

    I’ve seen eBay affiliates have their accounts closed because they picked up a TDNAM domain that looked good on paper (nice age & backlinks) but the history of the domain was in the adult niche so ePN viewed the backlinks and the domain history as undesirable. Even though the new owner did not use it for the adult niche but he inherited the domains shady history. Last I read from the ePN forums was that was still banned. Felt bad for the guy since he just didn’t do his due-diligence on the domain. So not only the can the spelling cause you issues but so can the history of what might look like a great domain to pickup.

  31. John says

    I have been on and off Mike’s lists for several years now, but not because I noticed anything wrong. I attribute the spam I get to the earlier years before I knew enough to use a contact form on my sites, and even after I did that, I forgot that my email was still listed in the author tag of the html! That dumb slip-up was my own fault, and it has now been corrected.

    The biggest reason that I unsubscibed is because I was getting info from nearly a 100 different marketers at one time, and most of them were only pushing products, without giving any real information….and he was one of them. To be honest, I own one of the BFM’s and I haven’t even had time to read it.

    The biggest problem I see with many of these marketing methods (including his) is the constant push to gather names and email addresses in the first place. Maybe for a newbie it will help get them started, but then where does it end? Most of these big marketers are making WAY, WAY more than the average person, and yet they keep thinking of ways to get more, while bilking the newbies out of hard earned money for telling them some “new” way to do the same old thing! I have seen very few really “new ideas” come out!

    The only thing I watch for is software to make the job of doing some new things easier, like video. Other than that, basic common sense marketing strategies haven’t changed that much, and there’s no reason to keep re-hashing them, except to scam someone out of their money!

    So these marketers make 40% more from back end sales! Isn’t a million dollars (+) a year WAY more than enough to begin with?! It only takes about $60K a year to live a very comfortable lifestyle without getting into all the extra expense involved with making that big money. Has anyone ever thought of what you have to spend out of that money to keep yourself and your family safe? We’re talking thousands more spent on security, for your home, your family and anythng else you care about! Ask any movie star, sports figure or celebrity how much they spend on it!

    And then there’s the work involved. Why create the extra work of having to constantly produce “new” products, or write newsletters to keep up with all those lists! When it gets to be too much, that means employees (or sub-contract vendors) to deal with! Who needs it?

    Most of the rest of us are happy just to make a living online that pays the monthly bills, so we can take the rest of the time off and just enjoy life! Why make a simple process so complex? I’d rather have 20 sites that sell a one shot product over and over again to different people, manage it myself in my spare time (without the hassle of employees), and not have to mess with keeping track of a list, affiliate links, and all that extra bookkeeping that goes along with it! Our whole marketing plan revolves around making everything run on autopilot (as much as possible) and working smarter not harder!

    Even the physical products that we deal with are supplied by others, and it takes me about ten minutes to process the order and make commissions in the hundreds of dollars. I don’t even care to be an “uber-millionaire” where I have to worry about my family’s safety from some of the nut-jobs out there! I’ll take slow and quiet, and enjoy doing the things I love without anyone being the wiser, or even knowing who I am. All the big-time marketers can have the spotlight! I prefer to stay on the other side of it!

    But I digress….thanks, Jerry, for the constant flow of good information without the pitches all the time. You are one of the few that I keep on my “approved” list.

  32. says

    Yes, Mike does sell email addresses. I had one internet marketer call me three times. Apparently he bought at least three of Mikes lists.

    I now unsubscribe immediately from anyone who sends me promotions by Mike Filsaime. The guy is barely literate. I agree with the writers above and wonder just how the guy ever got on the ‘guru’ list.

  33. says

    Thanks for the info Jerry. I hadn’t thought about the ramifications of unintended adult words in your domain name, but I guess it makes sense.

    I agree with Terry’s point about a failure in the filtering software, but that’s all part of the game we play.

    Your point about putting your main site on a dedicated IP adress is one which people would do well to take notice of. The reasoning behind it, IMHO is more important, though: protecting your money sites from being tarred by any grey marketing, whether from excessive social bookmarking, link directories, multiple domains, etc. Because if your money sites get banned or filtered, well you see where I’m going… :)

  34. Bob says

    Question: You wrote “How do you fix this? It’s easy. Just move butterflymarketing.com (your main domain) to a dedicated IP address. Problem solved. And it will cost you a whopping dollar extra per month in hosting.”

    Really? What hosting provider is that? Dedicated costs about 8 times the shared versions at most hosts I know. Please share that hosting company.

  35. says

    Bob,

    Check for dedicated IP address. As a for-instance, this is an extra $2/month charge for Host Gator’s middle grade hosting package (baby croc, or whatever its called) and it’s actually free for the third package (the one that’s all of like $13/month or whatever).

    Chris

  36. Dan says

    You can add a dedicated IP address to any Godaddy hosting account as well. I believe the cost is less than $3 per month extra.

  37. Chris says

    I think what this shows is the bad taste Mike has left in alot of peoples mouths. I had a good friend who claimed Mike sold his name but I took it with a grain of salt b/c I just didn’t expect him to go that low. But according to some posts above, guess he did.

    My beef with Mike isn’t so much his marketing tactics, I mean, we see that alot in this industry, i remember one guru proclaiming to milk your list..2 ways to list build..but back to my point..

    I bought his 7 figure code b/c you can always learn from someone who has built a 7 figure business, learn systems, the steps they took, etc…but when i saw the businesses he built..all IM related stuff, not to mention, all junk IMHO, i was like.. huh?!?! who is buying all this crap? The dude can sell, give him that much.

    Curious to see a lot of well respected guru’s who are very cautious about who they promote to be in so close with Mike being his reputation is pretty weak.

  38. John says

    In regard to the upgrade to dedicated, I just signed up for a package with 1and1.com and I think they said that dedicated hosting was only $2 more a month.

    And Chris, I agree about the IM products. Sure, it’s a hot market, but it’s so saturated (mostly with repeated garbage) that it hardly pays to get any newsletters anymore. However, there are a few good ones left, and usually those will let you know if there’s anything else out there worth getting.

    I wasn’t aware of the situation with Mike selling email lists, but I unsubscribed anyway, just based on what I’ve heard here. Over the nine years I’ve been in this business, I’ve pretty much figured out what path I want to go down, and his isn’t it. I just hope someone clues him into reading this, so he sees where his reputation is going. But maybe he doesn’t have enough conscience to care.

    Besides, a marketer of his caliber not knowing enough to either use dedicated hosting or to spread his domains over several hosts, doesn’t sound like the “guru” that everyone makes him out to be.

    Thanks everyone for the good info.

  39. Jones says

    “Most of the rest of us are happy just to make a living online that pays the monthly bills, so we can take the rest of the time off and just enjoy life!”

    Touche! It’s refreshing to know there are marketers who are not obsessed with list building for the constant hustle.

    You’ll do well when the economy collapses since you’re not ‘all about the money’.

  40. confused? says

    Sorry for my confusion…

    What kind of straight forward hypocrisy it that… “Now, even though I’m a Faculty Member of StomperNet, I’m not a fan of Filsaime’s marketing techniques”

    so you what… like the money he gives but…?don’t like how he spams the h outof his customers in order to pay you?

    then why comment at all?

  41. says

    Filsaime is a JV of StomperNet … not the owner. I’ve never taken a dime from Filsaime and I never will. I don’t drink his Kool-Aid. ;-)

    While Filsaime has brought a lot of customers to StomperNet, if Filsaime never promoted SN, do you think SN would crumble and die? Not likely. Don’t forget, Andy Jenkins runs the show and tends to know a little about marketing online.

    Hopefully that clears up the confusion.

  42. Affiliate Marketing says

    Jerry,

    Did you REALLY think there wasn’t going to be some bashing on this guy?

    That’s what happens when you give yourself a bad rep.

    Not that he cares or anything……..

  43. says

    Clint,

    Honestly, I never thought it would turn into this …

    I saw your post on your site regarding “no more free coaching.” Good call. That can suck your day and energy right out the window.

  44. confused? says

    Jerry, Hi.

    Yes, well, first of all an email was sent to me to check out your post… your post is a fine post that…

    You are renowned in your field that’s for sure, extremely busy and I thank you for taking the time to alert and remind us of smart busines practices.

    Examining the screen shots though, it is confusing why someone would have so many sites registered publicly revealing his marketing… it is confusing why he did not purchase these domains under private registration under one or more different businesses scattered about.

    Thanks for reminder to get a private IP, and the insight on 200 names stacked on an IP, especially since this is advice to investigate the IP any given domain is on in order to check “the company” kept.

    For me, I’m grateful you took the time to forewarn and remind us of stacking domains like this and I could safely say I can remind myself to double check our domains using simple script to launch find commands in large lists.

    I have seen this excessive algo monitoring even spill over to the merchant vendor systems for accepting credit payments… customers will reverse charges when they see a charge they don’t remember and are told it belongs to a darker side by bank employees… so the problem is in many fields. Thanks for the reminder to be domain conscious on our public registrations though.

    Concerning the JV and Stompernet… I’m sure you have a fine product… and talented people running it… I did not mean to slight it in any way and perhaps… I even thank you for not deleting the post.

    I think I agree… any conversation about the business practices and who is getting paid and who is driving traffic belongs in a different venue… please don’t let a little sidetracking drain you.. you’re expertise is a light in the dark realms of business and esp Internet Marketing Business

  45. Truth can Hurt says

    Hi, I am developing an intense frustration with all of the “gurus”, who continually roll out the same old crap and call it New and Improved. I believe that Mike Filsaime is just a crook, who pimps himself out to every internet product out there. What does that make you?
    Jonathan Hilton

  46. mike says

    One of my parked domains got flagged as an adult site by Yahoo advertising and it was a domain about constipation. Took awhile that cleared up and I lost on the parking revenue.

  47. says

    Hold on, everyone, I thought Jerry’s post was about avoiding accidentally being tagged as a disreputable site and how even savvy marketers get caught out. Instead it unleashed this anti-MF barrage! I know that some of Mike’s courses have worked for some people, and just because they didn’t work for you it doesn’t mean that he’s a shyster.

    He sends a lot of email, he’s an internet marketer. Flag his emails as spam and you won’t have to read them!

    Julia

  48. says

    Julia,

    You are exactly right, that was the intent of the post and instead it turned into a “venting” post. Mike called me after he saw this post and it was a very positive conversation. I told him that just because I didn’t like his style of marketing didn’t make it wrong. There are a lot of people who don’t like my style. I expect that. When everyone likes you that’s when you have issues. :-)

  49. says

    This is a great point how you can be tagged as something you are not if you aren’t careful. I don’t get the MF bashing either. If you don’t like it, unsubscribe. It is that simple. But bitching will get you nowhere in life.

  50. Peter Buick says

    There’s a place in te UK called Sussex. Not to mention Middlesex. Essex and Surrey.

    Nope we can’t say there’s no sex in Surrey, they have a growing population :-) (joke)

    So does this comment flag your site as a fun with bodies site?

    I think the Internet needs to get over itself!

    If there is a moral, perhaps it is gurus should keep their clothes on, anyway.

    If a PG audience is advised not to come to my WhatsOnInSussex site, I can live with that!
    I think it will be balanced out by the very dissapointed randy audience who aren’t looking for what’s on, but what’s off.

    I’m Britsih, but I never knew sex was a bad thing. Who knew?

    You’ve basically said that anyone with shared server hosting is out of luck. Some IPs won’t even let you buy additional (non shared IPs).
    These “services” and filers need to sort themselves out. I’ll be banning any spiders I find from them to start with. But that’s just me. Wreckless and full of hippy loving :-)

    Peter – fully clothed – thank God.

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    Finding someone who not only does SEO but does the content creation and distribution for you as well as keyword research, updating content on your website and blog, having professionaly written press releases at low prices as mentioned above

  52. Simon Lowell says

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  53. Issac Maez says

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  54. Proxy says

    @Markus I get your drift on where you were going there. I often think of my past and use it as a means to analyze where I am and where I want to get to. Where I struggel is balancing it all out. How do you guys balance things out?

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